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mariposa1957
Member Nathrius
Canada
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 Posted - 02/11/2013 : 23:05:54
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This specimen came from Cameroon and I am not even sure it is a Prosopocera species.
Does anyone know what it is? Could it be Prosopocera thompsoni?
I recognize that it has some significant rubs.
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 03/11/2013 : 10:04:04
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Welcome to the Forum Andrew!!!
It really seems P. thomsoni, but I think Carlo could better confirm it.
In the meantime, I add the original drawing of this species (which has changed name since preoccupied).
Hodoeporus bipunctatus Thomson, 1858 |
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mariposa1957
Member Nathrius
Canada
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Posted - 03/11/2013 : 16:44:20
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Thanks Francesco!
I had a feeling it was thomsoni, but could not find a photo of a real specimen other than the original drawing you provided.
Thanks again. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
9416 Posts |
Posted - 03/11/2013 : 19:15:41
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mhm... I have got a photo of an old specimen of the Museum Luxembourg, but it is too small to be helpful. 
© Musée national d'histoire naturelle de Luxembourg |
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Carlo
Member Rosenbergia
Italy
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Posted - 20/11/2013 : 18:15:13
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Hello Francesco, hello Andrew
Today I received from Camerun a good specimen of this species; two doubts:
From Breuning
“97. thomsoni…… les antennes de la longeur du corp (female) ou moitié plus longues (male)…” so it is a male
“…. ou pourvu d’une petite corne émoussé chez le male….” so it isn’t thomsoni.
I have in collection five Alphitopola viridecincta (male and female) and surely they are a different species (in size, colour and shape)
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2187
I don’t know rufobrunnea, but it seems to me very similar to viridecincta
Francesco, where is the truth? 
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Carlo
Member Rosenbergia
Italy
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Posted - 20/11/2013 : 18:20:08
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Se viridecincta è corretta la cosa più logica è che si tratti di thomsoni, resta il dubbio del corno frontale... tanto per cambiare ma nella descrizione originale se ne parla?
ciao Francesco  |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
9416 Posts |
Posted - 20/11/2013 : 19:45:58
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Hintz, 1919: 617
This is the original description of viridicincta.
The most interesting thing to remark is that Hintz mentioned no elytral spot. |
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Carlo
Member Rosenbergia
Italy
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Posted - 20/11/2013 : 21:59:04
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Forse mi sono spiegato male: dato per scontato che viridecincta sia effettivamente lei, l'esemplare di Andrew ed il mio arrivato oggi possiamo affermare siano due thomsoni? Breuning parla di piccolo corno frontale ma nella descrizione di Thomson c'è? e in questo caso i due esemplari potrebbero essere due femmine e Breuning è andato a memoria sulla lunghezza delle antenne?
Come tu ben sai queste tabelle risolvono magari qualche dubbio ma ne solleva anche altri |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 20/11/2013 : 22:46:38
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La descrizione di Thomson é nella library qui a pag. 188.
Secondo Thomson si trattava di un maschio e non si parla di corno frontale.
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mariposa1957
Member Nathrius
Canada
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Posted - 08/01/2014 : 20:15:47
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Thanks Guys, so the consensus is that it is viridecincta. Looking at the pictures myself they do seem very similar but the colouration and the spots on the elytra seem different and there seems to be a mottled patterning on the upper portion of the elytra of the viridecincta that does not seem to be on my spaces. Thoughts?
I appreciate all the help! Andrew |
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Cameroon, Prosopocera thomsoni
