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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
Spain
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 Posted - 25/01/2015 : 15:49:44
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From China, Sichuan.
Sizes: 16-17 mm respectively.
Maybe Grammographus notabilis cuneatus (Fairmaire, 1888)???? |
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nasa
Member Rosalia
China
960 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2015 : 16:46:40
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| yes, it is! there are many similar topic about this species in the forum, you can find them! |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 25/01/2015 : 16:54:56
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| I still don't understand how to separe Demonax nigromaculatus Gahan, 1906 / Demonax oblongomaculatus Gahan, 1906 / Grammographus notabilis cuneatus (Fairmaire, 1888) etc |
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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
Spain
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Posted - 25/01/2015 : 16:59:39
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In Base Titan Demonax notabilis is synonym of Grammographus notabilis. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 25/01/2015 : 17:03:52
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| Naturally, Grammographus is a well-known synonym of Demonax, as already explained here. |
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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
Spain
1741 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2015 : 17:40:07
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| So, all Grammographus are Demonax?? |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12085 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2015 : 19:05:21
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| Have a look here also ... |
Edited by - Xavier on 25/01/2015 19:05:35 |
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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
Spain
1741 Posts |
Posted - 25/01/2015 : 19:12:08
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Very complicated these species.... All presents the same look!! |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
9420 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2015 : 18:48:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Sergi
So, all Grammographus are Demonax??
Naturally, for the simple reason that the type-species (Grammographus lineatus Chevrolat, 1863) was synonymised with Demonax.
All entomologists agree on this point for more than one century, as the same Titan base shows (here).
Then, if Mr. Tavakilian, on his own initiative, autonomously decides to conserve Grammophorus as a good genus, he must publish a paper supporting this statement.
Otherwise, the officially recognized name remains Demonax notabilis. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12085 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2015 : 18:51:45
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| true ! |
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Sergi
Member Rosenbergia
Spain
1741 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2015 : 18:51:52
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| Ok Francesco, Thank you very much for your clarification!! |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
9420 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2015 : 19:02:34
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I'd only add that Grammographus lineatus does not belong to the species-group of Demonax notabilis either but to a group of species with 3 black lines, which nobody considers as Grammographus (see BioLib).
Grammographus lineatus Chevrolat, 1863 in Gahan (1906)
On the contrary, the species of the group notabilis shows a pattern made of small triangles. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12085 Posts |
Posted - 26/01/2015 : 19:50:31
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G. Tavakilian change right now Grammographus -> Demonax for this species.
It was just a mistake.
To see the modification, we have to wait the next version updated. |
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nalslan
Member Purpuricenus
China
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Posted - 27/01/2015 : 00:25:14
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Good to know.
It reminds me I have a couple of specimen like this and I have trouble to id them. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
9420 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2015 : 13:28:28
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quote:
Originally posted by Xavier
G. Tavakilian change right now Grammographus -> Demonax for this species.
It was just a mistake.
Now it is a mistake.
No published paper supports the revalidation of Grammographus!  |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12085 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2015 : 18:04:21
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| True, and we have to publish it... |
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China, Demonax notabilis cuneatus?
