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Xaurus
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  01:00:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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N-Vietnam, Pia Oac, 8mm

Francesco
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  07:18:50  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd say Saperdini, Nedytisis, Serixia or some genus like those.
Have you checked the metepisterna?
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Jérôme Sudre
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  17:36:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
The genus Serixia seems likely? However pronotum is still very strong? And the apex of scape relatively bulged. Can be Serixia sedata Pascoe? but not certain at all ....
I have an ex S Sedata in collection and it does not look like quite.
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Xavier
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Posted - 08/04/2015 :  20:06:42  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok with Jérome. I have checked all the types pictures I have, and pronotum seems long for a Serixia...I don't know what is it .
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Xavier
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Posted - 09/04/2015 :  13:35:24  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Just an idea, (better here than in my head ?), something close to Penthides genus ? (but Desmiphorini )
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Jérôme Sudre
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Posted - 09/04/2015 :  18:32:04  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bonjour

oui cela me semble plus correct déjà originellement cela ne me semblait pas un Saperdini (ne me demandez pas pourquoi c'est comme ça) mais oui il me semble plus correct que ce soit un Penthides ?
Autant les Saperdini restent relativement homogènes dans leurs habitus mais les Desmiphorini non ! Au même titre que les Rhodopini qui sont très diversifié et qu'il serait bien de redéfinir car c'est vraiment la tribu fourre tout
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jplami
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Posted - 10/04/2015 :  04:31:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit jplami's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Desmiphorini(sensu largo) species, our lamiine is very near Penthides (here antenna are perhaps too long) or Soupha nouvongi, 1963, you can see in Rondon & Breuning, 1970 (Lamiines du Laos) : 488 (fig c).
Perhaps different with pronotum which seems a little bigger in the small black&white picture.

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Xavier
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Posted - 10/04/2015 :  07:20:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Here a color picture of the holotype of Soupha nouvongi, 1963 (thanks to Larry)

Andreas specimen is different : black antenna and not round side pronotum.

Edited by - Xavier on 10/04/2015 07:21:39
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Xaurus
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Posted - 11/04/2015 :  01:08:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks, yes Penthides is similar, but much more hairy at the whole body, and with shorter antennae, maybe nearby is Asaperdina whiteheadi (Gressitt, 1940) - somebody has a type picture ?
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